- Brittnay Carpenter
- Chad Brossman
- Christina Cram
- Claudio Canale
- Daniel Griffin
- David Watkins
- Eileen Bulman
- Fred Ibarra
- Freddy Trevino
- Gina Bovington
- Helen NGN
- Jan O'Brien
- Jessica Bullis
- Jordan Jaeger
- Julie Lanley
- Justin Martinez
- Kristoffer Kjeldsen
- Kyle Swanson
- Lyle Huber
- Lynn Arrington
- Manuel Icasiano
- Marcelo Reyna
- Mark Howard
- Matt Gorman
- Michelle Diaz
- Mike Clark
- Mike Conder
- Mike Quinn
- Monika Barton
- Patte Thornton
- Peter Sangiorgio
- Rick Ireland
- Robert Johnson
- Sajjad Syed
- Sasha Ray
- Scot Simmons
- Shawna Tessier
- Sheila Smith
- Sonja Santiago
- Steve Ross
- Tamara Miller
- William Bruce
Brittnay Carpenter joined Arrington Watkins in 2013 as an Architect-in-Training. Her daily activities include BIM modeling and drafting construction documents. She graduated with honors from Arizona State University in 2012 with a B.S.D. in Architectural Studies. She has worked on a variety of projects since joining the architecture workforce, including healthcare, retail, restaurants and detention centers. Brittnay passed her architectural exams in mid 2016 and is now a registered Architect in Arizona.
“Some days are hopscotch kind of days, other are getting nailed at dodge ball kind of days.”
Chad Brossman is a tenacious project architect with a wide range of experience in architecture, design, sustainability, and construction. He has worked on a diverse array of projects, including aviation, health care, education , commercial, and retail projects, across 30 states and internationally. His experience encompasses all phases of architecture, from initial design through permitting and construction. Chad holds a Bachelor of Design from ASU and a Master of Architecture from University of Florida, and is licensed in the State of Arizona, NCARB registered, and a City of Phoenix Self-Certification Member. Passionate about sustainability, Chad is a LEED AP (BD + C), as well as a Certified Sustainable Building Advisor (CSBA).
“I prefer drawing to talking. Drawing is faster, and leaves less room for lies.”
Le Corbusier, Architect
Christina graduated from ASU in 2016 with a Bachelor of Science in Architecture. During her last year of school she worked at North Valley Interiors in Phoenix working with clients doing kitchen and bathroom remodel. Christina joined us in 2016 bringing her skills and knowledge to our internship program.
“Timing, perseverance, and ten years of trying will eventually make you look like an overnight success”-Biz Stone
Claudio CanaleProject Coordinator
Claudio joined our team in October of 2016 and brings with him over 14 years of experience as a Project Coordinator. Projects range in size and complexity from Freestanding Emergency Departments to Multilevel Hospital Buildings, in California, Texas, Arizona and Florida. Through his work he has developed a thorough understanding of model organization and how to maximize productivity. He has been involved in multiple capacities from supervision of production staff and delegation of project tasks while serving on the Technical standards committee for many years monitoring construction documents, standards, and production processes.
“There are two Kinds of people, those who do the work and those
who take the credit. Try to be in the first group; there is less competition.”
Quote from Indira Gandhi
Daniel Griffin was born and raised in Glendale Arizona. A drafting class taken during his second semester of freshman year in high school propelled Daniel into the world of architecture. In 2013, Daniel graduated from Arizona State University with a Bachelor of Science in Design, Architecture. After graduation, Daniel worked in the southwest office, based in Phoenix, of Shepley Bulfinch, an architectural firm headquartered in Boston, MA. Daniel was able to develop an understanding of schematic design packages, construction administration packages and construction documents as it pertains to higher education and healthcare design. Since joining Arrington Watkins in 2014, Daniel has been able to adapt these skills and develop a stronger connection to the understanding of architecture.
David and his partner, Lynn Arrington, practiced architecture together for 20 years in a large regional architectural / engineering firm before forming Arrington Watkins Architects in 1994. Over the span of his career, David has managed a variety of large complex projects, including law enforcement, public safety, industrial and manufacturing, courts, criminal justice, medical, maintenance facilities, retail fuel installations and warehouses. David remains involved in many of the firm’s projects, particularly in the areas of programming, planning, scheduling, manpower planning, budgeting, and quality assurance. In addition to his project management duties, David is the Principal-in-Charge of Business Management for the firm, including responsibilities for financial management, human resources, marketing, risk management and training.
Eileen BulmanMarketing Assistant
Eileen joined Arrington Watkins in 2011 as assistant business manager, and has now extended her career path to include Marketing. She serves as our Assistant to the Marketing Department and her duties include assisting our Marketing Coordinator with SOQ preparation, coordination of social media, assisting staff with travel management and coordination of various company events. She also is in charge of tracking Professional and Business licensure for the company and our Architects. Eileen is dedicated to her membership on the firms Wellness Committee and is very proud of all the accomplishments they have achieved. Outside the office Eileen enjoys time with her daughters, hiking, biking and enjoying all that living in Central Phoenix has to offer.
"Lose yourself in the things you love and that is where you will find yourself!"
Fred Ibarra joined Arrington Watkins in 2014, bringing seven years of architectural experience on commercial, educational, and residential projects. A graduate of ITESCA University Ciudad Obregon in Mexico, Fred is a skilled BIM modeler, working on the day-to-day production of project modeling using Revit. Fred also produces construction documents, as-built documents, and any necessary modeling families required for the timely completion of a project. Since joining Arrington Watkins, Fred has been highly involved in a number of the firm's large justice projects.
"Not trying is failing."
Freddy TrevinoAdministrative Assistant
Alfred Trevino joined the Arrington Watkins team in 2011 as Administrative Assistant. He is responsible for archiving physical and electronic files into the company database. He admits to receiving quite the learning experience working with coworkers who he believes are hardworking and intelligent people. In his spare time, Freddie likes to play the piano and has mastered the art of video games.
"Forgive and Forget"
Gina BovingtonAdministrative Assistant
Gina Bovington joined the Arrington Watkins team in March of 2014, bringing over 15 years of experience in sales, marketing, and business administration. In addition to greeting guests at the Arrington Watkins office, Gina coordinates meetings, orders office supplies and supports construction administration production staff. Outside the office, Gina loves traveling, shopping, reading, and spending time with her family.
"What lies behind you and what lies in front of you, pales in comparison to what lies inside of you."
Ralph Waldo Emerson
Helen NGNProject Coordinator
Helen NGN began with Arrington Watkins as a drafter in 2002 and has since been promoted to the position of project coordinator. Helen has served as Arrington Watkins' field representative for some of our largest correctional projects, including FCI Mendota and USP Tucson. Additionally, Helen has developed an expertise in door hardware, attending numerous hardware and hardware specification courses with Door Hardware Institute and ASSA ABLOY. Helen holds a Bachelor of Science in Architecture from Arizona State University.
“No medicine cures what happiness cannot”
Gabriel Garcia Marquez.
Jan O'BrienArchitect / Specification Writer
A licensed architect in Arizona and Montana, Jan began working at Arrington Watkins Architects in June 2016 as a specification writer, and joined the firm in October 2016. Born and raised in southwest Wisconsin, he moved to Montana in 1972 to pursue education in Architecture, graduating from Montana State University with a Bachelor of Architecture degree. Over the next 37 years, he worked in firms around the State of Montana. Starting with "pencil-CADD" he transitioned into Auto-CADD working on educational, medical, financial, government, and military projects in Montana, Wyoming and North Dakota. He has a background in building assessments, construction drawings and specifications, construction administration, jobsite observation and project closeout. He performed several JCAHO (Joint Commission on Accreditation of Healthcare Organizations) reviews and assisted with Preliminary Architectural Reports (PAR) in Montana and Wyoming. He and his wife moved to Arizona in 2014 to be closer to kids and grandkids ... and to escape from shoveling snow.
“If you can solve your problem, then what is the need of worrying? If you cannot solve it, then
what is the use of worrying?” --Shantideva
Jessica BullisAdministrative Assistant
Jessica has worked in the construction/AE field for over 10 years. She joined the Administration staff at Arrington Watkins in December of 2013. Jessica's role is to lead the front office staff, assist Architects and design team from schematic design all the way to construction completion, coordinate workflow and project deadlines with clients and consultants, many administrative duties including document management, along with editing and proofreading.
Jessica is one of the first people you see when you walk through our door. She has been involved in animal rescue and fostering, enjoys playing kickball, volleyball and softball, and cannot start her day without a good cup of coffee.
“Never to suffer would never to have been blessed.”
Edgar Allen Poe
Jordan JaegerBIM Manager
Born and raised in the Midwest in the great state of Iowa and relocated to Arizona in 1999 accepting a job offer to work with a well-known retail architectural firm in the design department. In 2004 transitioned to a firm specializing in commercial architecture working on numerous award-winning office projects throughout the valley in various roles. Spent the past 6 plus years as a BIM manager which has included everything from developing company standards and procedures to implementation, training, marketing, research and development of new trends and ideas, along with supporting project teams.
Nothing can stop the man with the right mental attitude from achieving his goal.
- Thomas Jefferson
Julie LanleyMarketing Coordinator
Julie Lanley joined the Arrington Watkins team in June 2015 as marketing coordinator. Her primary responsibilities include the production of SOQs and proposals as well as other marketing collateral. Although fairly new to the A/E/C industry, she brings extensive knowledge of layout & design from her previous employment at a local newspaper for which she worked for more than 13 years. She has a B.S. in Consumer Science and Education from the University of Nebraska - Lincoln. In her spare time, Julie likes to hike, read, watch movies and spend time with her kids and newly adopted dog.
'Life is like a box of chocolates. You never know what you’re gonna get.' - Forrest Gump
Justin Martinez is an architect-in-training, BIM manager, and project coordinator with Arrington Watkins. He received his Bachelor of Science in Architecture from ASU in 2008 and joined Arrington Watkins as an intern in 2007. After graduating, he joined AW full-time to be part of the firm's first Revit pilot project. Justin returned to ASU to earn his Master of Architecture, where he focused his studies on solely using Revit for design and presentation. Upon graduation in 2011, he brought his developed methods of utilizing Revit from the conception of the project to develop efficient transition directly into contract documents. He is currently building his personal residence in Tempe, AZ with expected completion in December of 2014.
“I do not think there is any other quality so essential to success of any kind as the quality of perseverance. It overcomes almost everything, even nature.”
John D. Rockefeller, Sr.
Kristoffer joined Arrington Watkins in June 2016 as an Architect-in-Training. He graduated from ASU in 2004 with BS in Design and in 2006 with Masters in Architecture. He became LEED AP in 2006 and is currently taking exams to become a Registered Architect. His architecture design experience includes health care - hospital remodels and outpatient facilities, retail, and high-end commercial. His hobbies include snowboarding and other outdoor activities, culinary, reading sci-fi and history.
“The mark of the immature man is that he wants to die nobly for a cause, while the mark of the mature man is that is wants to live humbly for one.”
― Wilhelm Stekel
Kyle SwansonProject Director
Kyle Swanson began his career in architecture in 1990, which had been his goal since elementary school. After graduating from the College of Engineering and Architecture at North Dakota State University with two Bachelor degrees, Kyle earned his architecture license and moved to Arizona, where he joined Arrington Watkins as a project architect in 2002. He has managed projects with budgets ranging from $1 million to $190 million in size, many of which are very technically complex. Additionally, Kyle spearheads Arrington Watkins' technology efforts, serving as a leader for the utilization of Building Information Modeling and Revit on our projects.
“Creativity is contagious, pass it on”
Lyle HuberProject Coordinator
Lyle Huber joined Arrington Watkins in March 2014 with seven years of experience in the architecture, construction risk management, and facility management fields, including three previous years with Arrington Watkins. Lyle’s previous experience has allowed him to work on a variety of facility types, including apartments, fire stations, Major League Baseball stadiums, office buildings, police stations, prisons and warehouses. Originally from Michigan, Lyle received a Bachelor Degree in Facility Management and an Associate Degree in Architectural Technology from Ferris State University in Big Rapids, Michigan.
“There are no traffic jams along the extra mile.”
Lynn Arrington has practiced architecture since 1973, and since 1994 as Principal of Arrington Watkins Architects. Lynn serves as the technical and design leader behind the firm's projects, directing the design of the firm's major facilities and providing technical training and guidance to staff members. His knowledge of building systems and construction is impressive, his capacity for innovative ideas is limitless, and his enthusiasm for what we do is infectious. Lynn holds a Bachelor of Architecture from Kansas State University, and is licensed to practice in 25 states, Puerto Rico, and Guam.
"There's got to be a better way!"
Manuel IcasianoAdministrative Assistant
Manny Icasiano was born in the Philippines, but soon moved to Queens, New York with his family, where he spent his childhood and early adult life. He was also fascinated with the extraordinary energy that emanated from this great city, which he attributes, in a subtle way, to his work ethic and the positive energy that he strives to bring to everything he does. In New York, he worked in office services for both a financial company and a law firm.
In 2003, with a desire to see another part of the country, Manny moved to San Francisco and continued his career in office services. Manny fell in love with the beauty of this city and all of the wonderful things California had to offer, with the exception of the cost of living and the cold weather that he fled from when he left New York. So, in 2006, Manny and his dog, Elvis, packed their belongings and headed to beautiful Fountain Hills, Arizona, where he currently resides. Manny enjoys spending time with Elvis outdoors as much as possible, working around the house, attending car shows, and watching the Phoenix Open.
“It’s so important to keep learning from those who we admire."
Marcelo ReynaProject Director
Marcelo Reyna joined Arrington Watkins in 1996, and currently serves as a project manager and the firm's sustainability director. He has managed a wide range of project types, with a focus on justice, Native American, waste/energy and public sectors. Recently, Marcelo has supervised a number of Arrington Watkins' notable projects, including Maricopa County Clerk of the Superior Courts, San Tan Regional Justice Center, and the Arizona Community EcoCenter. Dedicated to sustainability, Marcelo is a LEED AP and a founding member of the USGBC-Arizona Chapter, formerly serving as Education Chair.
"Those who say it cannot be done should not interrupt those doing it."
Mark Howard joined Arrington Watkins in March 2016. He was born in Marshalltown, Iowa and was raised in and around Yellowstone National Park. Mark received his Master of Architecture from Montana State University and is a licensed architect in Arizona as well as other states. His experience includes project planning and management, government, hospitality, and commercial projects. Mark's professional affiliations include NCARB and AIA. He also holds a Project Management Professional Certification (PMP).
“A team is not a group of people who work together. A team is a group of people who trust each other.” -Author unknown
Matt GormanAssociate Architect / Project Director
Matt Gorman has performed a broad spectrum of building-related design tasks in the fields of architecture, facilities management, and mechanical engineering. Since joining Arrington Watkins in 1995, Matt has served as senior designer ,project manager, and now Associate Architect, assisting clients with projects of diverse sizes and scopes. Matt has managed a number of major projects for the firm throughout the United States, including private prisons, federal prisons, and border patrol stations. Locally, Matt's expertise is in police and fire facilities and working with Native American communities. Matt holds a Bachelor of Architecture and Master of Architecture from Arizona State University.
"There are known knowns. These are things we know that we know. There are known unknowns. That is to say, there are things that we know we don't know. But there are also unknown unknowns. There are things we don't know we don't know."
Michelle DiazBusiness Manager
Michelle Diaz is responsible for the day-to-day management of the firm’s business. Working closely with Principal David Watkins and the entire leadership team, she manages Arrington Watkins' finances, human resources, insurance, contracts, and general office operations. Initially hired as a bookkeeper in 2003, her financial knowledge and leadership have proven to be integral to the firm, and she was promoted to business manager. Michelle holds a Bachelor's in Business and Information Systems and a Master's in Business Administration, and is a member of the Society for Human Resource Management. Additionally, Michelle is extremely active in the Wellness Committee, advocating for healthy lifestyle practices within the firm.
"A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort."
Mike ClarkProject Coordinator
Michael Clark started his career in 1979 at the Phoenix Architectural Firm of Haver Nunn & Collamer working with Lynn & David in the Housing Department. After working at various firms around the valley on every type of project he could imagine and honing his skills in the trade, Mike has come full circle and is back working with Lynn and David as a Project Coordinator at AWA.
"I believe in God, only I spell it Nature."
Mike ConderProject Director
Mike Conder received a Bachelor of Science and a Master of Architecture from Arizona State University. He also received a Master of Business Administration from the University of Arizona. His professional career has included projects in the fields of justice, education, office and mixed-use. He is well versed in conventional construction technologies and delivery methods. He has extensive experience in all aspects of project management including scheduling, budgeting, programming, design, documentation and construction administration. Mike takes a client-centered approach to design and project management, always looking at the project from the eyes of the owner, user groups and maintenance personnel. He is happiest when he hears positive feedback from his clients years after they have moved into the building.
"Today is your day! Your mountain is waiting. So... get on your way."
Mike QuinnAssociate Architect / Project Director
Beginning his career in architecture in 1985, Mike Quinn joined Arrington Watkins in 1995 and now serves as an Associate Architect. Mike has managed some of the firm's largest projects, including two $200 million facilities for the Arizona State Prison System. He is also an expert in the planning and design of public works, maintenance, and fleet maintenance facilities. Mike is a founding member and past president for the USGBC - Arizona Chapter, and is also involved in professional organizations such as DBIA, APWA, and RMFMA. His personal interests include woodworking and carving. He is an Assistant Scoutmaster and Pack Trainer for the Boy Scouts of America, where all three of his sons are active.
"When we are debating an issue, loyalty means giving me your honest opinion, whether you think I'll like it or not. Disagreement, at this stage, stimulates me. But once a decision has been made, the debate ends. From that point on, loyalty means executing the decision as if it were your own."
Monika Barton began at Arrington Watkins as an intern while attending Arizona State University. She received a Bachelor of Science in Design from ASU in 2012, and was then began full-time as a BIM Modeler and Architect-in-Training. In her spare time, she participates in a community band called Arizona Wind Symphony and performs concerts at the Tempe Center for the Arts.
“Life isn’t about waiting for the storm to pass, it’s about learning how to dance in the rain.”
Patte Thornton received her Master's in Architecture from New Jersey Institute of Technology. Prior to going back to school, she spent 18 years in the construction industry. She possesses a strong technical background, which she utilizes both in the office and in the field. Her architectural experience encompasses criminal justice, industrial, public works and residential projects within multiple delivery methods. Patte is licensed in the State of Arizona and the State of California. She holds an NCARB Certification, is a LEED AP, and is also a member of the American Institute of Architects.
“Imagination is more important than knowledge. Knowledge is limited. Imagination encircles the world.”
Peter SangiorgioAssociate Architect / Project Director
Peter Sangiorgio is a Registered Architect with over 25 years of experience in the practice of architecture. During the past 20 years as an associate with Arrington Watkins, Peter has been involved in the development of a wide variety of projects totaling nearly $1.5 billion and counting in construction costs. These projects have included justice facilities, government and medical installations, manufacturing and warehouses, and high-end office facilities. In addition to his specific project responsibilities, Peter’s internal responsibilities include staff development and training, marketing for justice and government sector projects, client development and production quality control and management.
"If you are not training, somewhere there is someone who is and when you meet him, he will win"
Rick IrelandBusiness Development
Rick Ireland joined the Arrington Watkins team in 2009 as the firm's business development representative. In his over 40 years of sales, marketing, and economic development experience in the Southwest, Rick has developed countless relationships with a wide range of public and private sector organizations. Additionally, his working knowledge of the design, engineering, construction, and real estate development industries places him in the unique position to share our firm's vision and values with potential clients, partnering firms, and consultants.
“Whatever goes around comes around”
Robert JohnsonProject Coordinator
Robert joined our firm in 2016 as a Project Coordinator. He has over 25 years of architecture design experience including health care - hospital remodels, outpatient facilities, retail, production housing, high-end custom homes, office/multi-use facilities, native American facilities, K-12 schools, higher education, chiller plants, and high-end commercial facilities. He has spent the past 6 plus years as a BIM manager which has included everything from developing company standards and procedures to implementation.
"With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be cheerful. Strive to be happy."
Sajjad joined Arrington Watkins in October 2016. He brings 10 years of professional design experience varying from small scale health clinics to large scale projects like airport terminals, high-end resorts and commercial buildings. He also has experience in K-12, tenant improvement, LDS churches and historic preservation projects. With heavy emphasis on commitment to client needs, he shapes his design skills implementing Revit.
Outside work he likes to spend time with Independent Filmmakers Associations volunteering for different parts of filmmaking.
"None of us is as smart as all of us."
Sasha Ray joined the Arrington Watkins team as a Project Architect in 2016. Her experience in the architecture field began in 1995 in Colorado after receiving her Bachelor’s Degree in Environmental Design at the University of Colorado. After relocating to Phoenix, Arizona in 1997, she began working on a variety of public projects including educational, municipal, and community projects, including work in Native American communities. She has been responsible for all aspects of the design process, including programming, construction documentation, project management and construction administration. Her prior experience as a Building Plans Examiner from 2012 - 2016 gives her building code, life safety and technical perspective from the point of view of an Authority Having Jurisdiction.
“Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.”
Scot SimmonsProject Coordinator
Scot Simmons received a Bachelor of Science in Engineering from Auburn University, and has held a number of positions within the scope of manufacturing engineering. After moving to Arizona in 2005, Scot transitioned from engineering into the architectural world. Since joining Arrington Watkins in the spring of 2006, he has continued to develop drafting and Building Information Modeling (BIM) skills to work with project managers and fellow designers in a team-centered environment. Don’t be surprised if you see Scot out on the golf course or the tennis courts at noon on an Arizona summer weekend. Even when the thermometer hits triple digits, he truly prefers doing some sort of outdoor activity.
“When I was young, I admired clever people. Now that I am old, I admire kind people.”
Shawna Tessier joined Arrington Watkins in 2014 as an architect-in-training and BIM modeler. She has a Bachelor of Science in Design in Architectural Studies from Arizona State and a Master of Architecture from the University of Illinois at Chicago. Her previous experience is primarily in K-12 education, with some work in office additions and religious facilities. She is currently participating in IDP and is on track to become registered by the State of Arizona, as well as NCARB. Shawna passed her architectural exams in mid 2016 and is now a registered Architect in Arizona.
"Do not take life too seriously. You will never get out of it alive."
Sheila SmithBusiness Development
Sheila Smith joined the Arrington Watkins team in June of 2006 as a production / CA assistant. In 2008, she was promoted to marketing coordinator. She was responsible for the development and production of SOQ's, proposal materials and presentations including SF 330 forms. In 2013, Sheila was promoted to marketing manager and now oversees the production of project proposals. She also assists Rick Ireland, Lynn Arrington and all project managers with their business development tasks. Additionally, Sheila handles event coordination for Arrington Watkins. She has a Bachelor's in Science degree in Health and Fitness Administration from Central Washington University and is active in the Arrington Watkins wellness committee.
In mid 2016 Sheila shifted into the Business Development department. In addition to her marketing duties, she is responsible for developing and implementing growth opportunities. Through research and development and multiple organizations she belongs to, she shares our firm's vision and values with potential clients, partnering firms, and consultants.
"All our dreams can come true if we have the courage to pursue them."
Sonja SantiagoBusiness Management Assistant
Sonja Santiago joined the Arrington Watkins team in March 2016 as the business management assistant. She has 15 years of experience in bookkeeping and accounting in the construction industry. In her spare time she enjoys being outdoors, spending time with family, and watching her children play sports.
"Life is beautiful."
Steve RossProject Coordinator
Steve joined us in 2017 as a Project Coordinator. Steve’s a retired Army Engineer Officer with over 24 years of total service including a combat tour in support of Operation Iraqi Freedom. Steve has worked on a wide range of project types with a focus on the Federal Government sectors for the Department of Defense and Customs and Border Protection. Steve holds Masters Degrees in Architecture and Business Administration. His hobbies include running, wood working, watercolor painting, and spending time with family.
“You miss 100% of the shots you don’t take.”
Tamara Miller joined the Arrington Watkins team as an architect-in-training in May 2016. She graduated from Marywood University with a Bachelor’s of Architecture in 2014 and Northampton Community College with an Associates in Interior Design in 2010. Tamara previously worked at Steven Glickman Architect in Easton, Pennsylvania; her projects included University design, residential design, and commercial design. She is currently in the process of getting her professional Architecture license through NCARB.
“The bad news is time flies. The good news is you’re the pilot.”
William BruceDesign Professional
William Bruce is a graduate of Arizona State University with both a Bachelor of Science in Design and a Master of Architecture. His professional career has included projects in the fields of transportation, aviation, federal government, and medical facilities. William is responsible for schematic design, design development, construction document development and construction administration. William is a LEED AP BD+C and is currently pursuing his Arizona Architecture License.
"Logic will get you from A to B. Imagination will take you everywhere."